Hi Tim,
I am glad you have more to say on this topic. I respect your biblical knowledge and have found your book “Know the Future” to be full of great information. So, I want you to know my response below is said with the ut most respect.
Kirt end
Tim says
Discovered by Russian astronomer Leonard Elenin in December, 2010, this 3-4 km sized comet will come closest to earth in October, 2011. But not that close; about as close as Venus comes to earth or 0.23 AU. Nevertheless, this comet has been the subject of much doomsday speculation and conspiracy theory for Fall, 2011.
Tim end
Kirt says
I have never speculated that Elenin will bring about a doomsday. I am only conveying what is already said in the bible, in particular the the 6th seal which is explained further down in my response.
nor is this some type of conspiracy.
I have no reason to create a conspiracy. I have nothing to gain. I am only trying to inform, anyone that will listen, of the event that will take place this fall.
Here is a quote from your book Chapter 1 pg 22 bottom paragraph
“I believe this book presents a reasonable case for the existence of a PX threat, notwithstanding the lack of traditional verifying evidence such as images from the Hubble Telescope. However, proving the existence of PX to my reader is not my goal. My goal is help you to consider the possibility of such a threat as I did, and through doing so open your mind to the possibility that Revelation's Star Wormwood is literal”
The words I underlined above state my goal as well, which is helping everyone consider the possibility of the upcoming great earthquake this fall due to the alignment of Elenin/brown dwarf star.
I support my position with evidence. 100% of the time, 7 out 7 times, Elenin has aligned with the earth and the sun we have had earthquakes.
During Elenin's last two and closest alignments we have a record number of earthquakes in one day in addition to volcano eruptions and a shifting of the earth’s axis.
These are facts that anyone can easily verify for themselves. You do not have to be some type of expert, nor be able to interpret information to understand the correlation that takes place every time there has been an alignment involving Elenin and the earth.
I would also add, along with the 100% efficiency of alignments to earthquakes involving Elenin and the earth, we also can easily see another correlation.
As Elenin has come closer to the Earth, the effects of the alignment are stronger, or in other words the force between the bodes becomes stronger. The alignments also spring volcanoes, tsunamis and a greater shift of the earth’s axis.
Below are three statements that are supported by irrefutable evidence.
1) 100% of the time, 7 out of 7 times, when Elenin aligns with the earth and sun it causes earthquakes and the last two times, with it being closer to the earth, it has also caused volcanoes, tsunamis and shift of the earth’s axis.
The
alignment involves the magnetic forces of the planets known as the Universal
Law of Gravitation
This law basically states there is a force of attraction that exists between any two objects that have mass. The more mass they have, the greater the force of attraction. The closer the objects are, the greater the force of attraction.
Here is a Gravity Equations Formulas Calculator
2) With Each progressing alignment that involves Elenin, earth and the sun;
I. The earthquakes have a stronger magnitude and the number of earthquakes has increased dramatically.
II. We also see additional repercussions which include; volcanoes erupting, tsunamis and a stronger shift in the
earth’s axis.
3) When Elenin aligns with the earth and another planet we also have a correlation of earthquakes.
These are facts, if you have not check these facts or you don't believe them, then before you continue reading, stop now and check them for your self.
Here is the link to Elenin’s orbit diagram which is created by NASA.
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=C/2010%20X1;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb
Here is a second source that shows Elenin’s projected orbit by Curt Renz.
http://www.curtrenz.com/comets01.html
The projected orbits are identical.
Both links show Elenin’s past orbit and projected orbit. No one is disputing Elenin’s projected orbit.
The data in the table below is taken from the U.S Geological Survey (USGS)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/shakemap/list.php?y=2008&n=global
Using the orbit tool we can easily go back to previous dates in time and see the alignment dates. We can also, go forward to see Elenin’s upcoming alignments this fall.
Here is all the data put into a table for anyone to read and verify.
* denotes and alignment with Elenin, earth and a planet and does not include the sun.
|
Alignment # |
alignments and the order |
Date and spring or fall |
Location |
Magnitude |
AU’s |
|
1 |
Sun earth Elenin |
Feb 20, 2008 (spring) |
7.4 |
11.646 |
|
|
1 |
Sun earth Elenin |
Feb 20, 2008 (spring) |
6.2 |
11.622 |
|
|
1 |
Sun earth Elenin |
Feb 21, 2008 (spring) |
6.4 |
11.639 |
|
|
1 |
Sun earth Elenin |
Feb 21, 2008 (spring) |
6.0 |
11.622 |
|
|
1
|
Sun earth Elenin |
Feb 21, 2008 (spring) |
5.6 |
11.622 |
|
|
1 |
Sun earth Elenin |
Feb 21, 2008 (spring) |
5.5 |
11.622 |
|
|
1 |
Sun earth Elenin |
Feb 21, 2008 (spring) |
5.7 |
11.622 |
|
|
Total 7 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
* |
Neptune earth Elenin |
May 12, 2008 |
7.9 |
11.968 |
|
|
* |
Neptune earth Elenin |
May 12, 2008 |
6.0 |
11.968 |
|
|
* |
Neptune earth Elenin |
May 12, 2008 |
5.7 |
11.968 |
|
|
* |
Neptune earth Elenin |
May 12, 2008 |
5.5 |
11.968 |
|
|
* |
Neptune earth Elenin |
May 12, 2008 |
5.8 |
11.968 |
|
|
* |
Neptune earth Elenin |
May 12, 2008 |
5.6 |
11.968 |
|
|
total 6 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
2 |
Earth sun Elenin |
Aug 27, 2008 (fall) |
6.2 |
12.341 |
|
|
2 |
Earth sun Elenin |
Aug 27, 2008 (fall) |
5.4 |
12.341 |
|
|
2 |
Earth sun Elenin |
Aug 27, 2008 (fall) |
5.7 |
12.341 |
|
|
2 |
Earth sun Elenin |
Aug 27, 2008 (fall) |
5.8 |
12.341 |
|
|
total 4 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
3 |
Sun earth elenin |
Feb 24, 2009 (spring) |
5.7 |
9.026 |
|
|
3 |
Sun earth elenin |
Feb 24, 2009 (spring) |
5.7 |
9.026 |
|
|
3 |
Sun earth elenin |
Feb 24, 2009 (spring) |
5.7 |
9.026 |
|
|
total 3 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
* |
Jupiter earth Elenin |
May 18, 2009 |
5.8 |
9.328 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
4 |
Earth sun Elenin |
Aug 28, 2009 (fall) |
6.8 |
9.587 |
|
|
4 |
Earth sun Elenin |
Aug 28, 2009 (fall) |
6.2 |
9.587 |
|
|
4 |
Earth sun Elenin |
Aug 28, 2009 (fall) |
3.5 |
9.587 |
|
|
4 |
Earth sun Elenin |
Aug 28, 2009 (fall) |
5.6 |
9.587 |
|
|
4 |
Earth sun Elenin |
Aug 28, 2009 (fall) |
5.5 |
9.587 |
|
|
total 5 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
* |
Venus Earth Elenin |
Feb 18, 2010 spring |
6.9 |
6.135 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 25, 2010 spring |
5.6 |
6.07 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 26, 2010 spring |
5.5 |
6.051 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 26, 2010 spring |
5.5 |
6.051 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 26, 2010 spring |
5.7 |
6.051 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 26, 2010 spring |
7.0 |
6.051 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 (spring) |
8.8 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
6.2 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
6.0 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.6 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
6.0 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
6.9 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
5.6 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.5 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
6.1 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.7 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
5.6 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.6 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
5.8 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.6 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
6.0 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.9 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
5.5 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
6.3 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
5.5 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.5 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
5.5 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.5 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
6.0 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.5 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
5.6 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
6.1 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
4.1 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.9 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
(spring) |
5.8 |
6.042 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 27, 2010 |
5.7 |
6.042 |
|
|
total 30 |
New record for most earthquakes in one day |
Feb 27, 2010 |
EARTH KNOCKED OFF ITS AXIS |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 28,2010 |
5.6 |
6.033 |
|
|
5 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
Feb 28,2010 |
6.2 |
6.033 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
* |
Mercury Earth Elenin |
March 4, 2010 |
6.2 |
6.002 |
|
|
* |
Mercury Earth Elenin |
March 4, 2010 |
6.0 |
6.002 |
|
|
* |
Mercury Earth Elenin |
March 4, 2010 |
6.5 |
6.002 |
|
|
* |
Mercury Earth Elenin |
March 4, 2010 |
6.3 |
6.002 |
|
|
* |
Mercury Earth Elenin |
March 5, 2010 |
5.7 |
5.995 |
|
|
* |
Mercury Earth Elenin |
March 5, 2010 |
6.0 |
5.995 |
|
|
* |
Mercury Earth Elenin |
March 5, 2010 |
6.0 |
5.995 |
|
|
* |
Mercury Earth Elenin |
March 5, 2010 |
6.8 |
5.995 |
|
|
* |
Mercury Earth Elenin |
March 6,2010 |
5.6 |
5.988 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
* |
Neptune Earth Elenin |
May 5, 2010 |
6.5 |
6.077 |
|
|
* |
Neptune Earth Elenin |
May 5, 2010 |
5.6 |
6.077 |
|
|
* |
Neptune Earth Elenin |
May 6, 2010 |
6.2 |
6.084 |
|
|
* |
Neptune Earth Elenin |
May 6, 2010 |
5.5 |
6.084 |
|
|
* |
Neptune Earth Elenin |
May 7, 2010 |
5.6 |
6.091 |
|
|
* |
Neptune Earth Elenin |
May 8, 2010 |
5.9 |
6.098 |
|
|
* |
Neptune Earth Elenin |
May 8, 2010 |
5.6 |
6.098 |
|
|
* |
Neptune Earth Elenin |
May 9, 2010 |
5.5 |
6.105 |
|
|
* |
Neptune Earth Elenin |
May 9, 2010 |
7.2 |
6.105 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
6 |
Earth Mercury Sun Elenin |
Sept, 3 2010 (fall) |
6.3 |
6.268 |
|
|
6 |
Earth Mercury Sun Elenin |
Sept, 3 2010 (fall) |
7.0 |
6.268 |
|
|
6 |
Earth Mercury Sun Elenin |
Sept, 3 2010 (fall) |
5.1 |
6.268 |
|
|
6 |
Earth Mercury Sun Elenin |
Sept, 3 2010 (fall) |
5.5 |
6.268 |
|
|
6 |
Earth Mercury Sun Elenin |
Sept, 3 2010 (fall) |
5.6 |
6.268 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
6 |
Earth Mercury Sun Elenin |
Sept, 4 2010 (fall) |
5.6 |
6.258 |
|
|
6 |
Earth Mercury Sun Elenin |
Sept, 4 2010 (fall) |
6.1 |
6.258 |
|
|
Total 7 |
|
Sept, 4 2010 |
In this alignment Mercury and the Sun were between Elenin and the Earth |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
* |
Jupiter Earth Elenin |
Jan 31,2011 |
6.0 |
2.927 |
|
|
* |
Jupiter Earth Elenin |
Feb 1,2011 |
5.6 |
2.903 |
|
|
* |
Jupiter Earth Elenin |
Feb 2,2011 |
5.9 |
2.879 |
|
|
* |
Jupiter Earth Elenin |
Feb 2,2011 |
5.2 |
2.879 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 spring |
9.0 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
6.4 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
6.4 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
7.9 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
7.7 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
6.3 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
6.3 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.8 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.9 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
6.3 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
6.1 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
6.1 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.9 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.8 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.7 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.6 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.9 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
6.2 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
6.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
6.1 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.9 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
6.0 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.9 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.6 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.7 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
6.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.8 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.6 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.6 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
6.2 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.6 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
6.2 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
6.1 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
6.6 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
spring |
6.3 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11,2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 11, 2011 spring |
5.8 |
2.155 |
|
|
total 46 |
New record for most earthquakes in one day |
|
EARTH KNOCKED OFF ITS AXIS |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.7 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
6.1 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
6.8 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.6 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.8 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
6.1 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.7 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.8 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
6.4 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.6 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.7 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
6.0 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
6.3 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 12, 2009 |
5.6 |
2.155 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
2.155 |
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 13, 2011 |
6.2 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 13, 2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 13, 2011 |
6.2 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 13, 2011 |
5.6 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 13, 2011 |
5.9 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 13, 2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 13, 2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 13, 2011 |
5.5 |
2.155 |
|
|
7 |
Sun Earth Elenin |
March 13, 2011 |
3.8 |
2.155 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Earth Elenin Saturn |
Sept 11-27 |
|
|
.635 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Earth Elenin sun Mercury |
Sept 26 |
|
|
.396 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Elenin Earth |
Oct 17 |
The closet Elenin will get to the earth |
|
.232 |
|
|
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Earth Elenin |
Nov 5 |
Earth crosses the path Elenin |
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Sun Earth Elenin |
Nov 23 |
Similar to March 11, 2011 Japan’s earthquake and Chiles earthquake only much closer |
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Elenin Sun Earth |
June 20, 2012 |
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I would ask, if Elenin were just a comet, when it is in alignment do you think it could pull on the earth hard enough to create the earthquakes listed above?
Based on the facts, we have to conclude that Elenin is not just a comet and/or that there is another heavenly body with it. I believe there are other bodies with it. It is very logical that there is a brown dwarf star with it along with its own satellites/moons/planets orbiting it. We have pictures of the satellites that are orbiting Elenin.
We all know that a comet, when in alignment, is not big enough to cause the earthquakes, volcanoes, and shifting of the earth’s axis that has resulted, which we can easily see from the data above.
We have easy to read, easy to understand data that clearly shows there will be two more alignments.
We have every indication to believe that when Elenin aligns again in the Fall, as it has for the last 3 cycles (once in the spring and once in the fall) it will be the closest alignment we will experience.
The repercussions of these next alignments will make Japan's earthquake seem like child's play.
Kirt end
Tim said
We must remember, as shown from earlier comet examples, that this is nothing new. Nearly every comet approaching earth in the past has brought with it this kind of hysteria. Now in the age of the Internet, you can count on every future passing comet to be the subject of some kind of doomsday speculation or conspiracy theory.
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Kirt says
Again the data clearly shows this is not JUST a comet.. If it were a only comet then we would not see the earthquakes that we see when Elenin aligns.
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Tim says
Among the claims for Comet Elenin are that:
Because they feel they have scientific (even NASA) data to back up some of the claims above, there's simply no arguing with the "watchmen" who are warning about Comet Elenin.
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Kirt says
Elenin’s size has been speculated and the data we do have clearly shows that Elenin is bigger than the speculated size.
The data supports that Elenin has a brown dwarf star with it and this brown dwarf is an explanation for the earthquakes it causes when in alignment.
It is not responsible for just the major earthquakes of Japan, as you can check for yourself, but also, 12 other days of quakes when it has aligned with the earth..
Pictures clearly show Elenin has companion objects NOT like Hale-Bopp…
Currently not one asteroid is predicted to hit us but it would not take much for any one of them to come closer. At least three asteroids will all be around the earth at the same time this fall.
The data is not based on a feeling, and it doesn’t back up just some of the claims but data backs up ALL the claims..
The data is not just from NASA, but also, the U.S Geological Survey (USGS).
Tim, if you feel that I am saying something in error then show me specifically the error in the correlation or anything I am saying.
If you or anyone can find an error in the correlation data, tell me where the error is, if it is truly an error, I will apologize and hope everyone can forgive me.
The more I dig into this, the more irrefutable data I find confirming the coming alignment this fall.
I also find the event this fall matches perfectly with the sixth seal mentioned in Revelation.
Kirt end
Tim says
On top of that, some feel that Bible prophecy talks about this comet. The Bible does indeed warn us about a coming wayward star named Wormwood (Rev 8:10-11). Although it is only mentioned as being seen at the 3rd trumpet, Wormwood appears to be responsible for all the cataclysms listed from the 6th seal (Rev 6:12) to the 4th Trumpet (Rev 8:12). (I cover this key overlooked prophetic milestone in my book.)
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Kirt says
Tim you say Wormwood “appears” to be responsible for all the cataclysms listed from the 6th seal to the 4th Trumpet.
You yourself use the word “appears”.
I can tell you for a fact the 6th seal is not Wormwood.
Below are the verses on Wormwood. The verse starts with "the third angel sounded". This is the third trump, whereas, the 6th seal is a seal, not a trump.
So, for starters one event is a seal and the other event is a trump. That alone tells you they are different events. But we can go into the details and and see that the 6th seal is not the same event as the third trump.
Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter
Notice in verse 10 Wormwood is “a” star that falls from heaven unto the rivers or onto the earth. The word “a” is singular. So, Wormwood is just one star.
Also notice that in the verses about Wormwood there is not one mention of an earthquake.
Whereas, the verses about the 6th seal include a great earthquake, the sun turning black and the moon turning red.
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
What happens when Elenin/brown dwarf aligns?
We have earthquakes including a great earthquake. We already have data that shows the sun will be blacked out during the Sept 27 alignment. The moon will turn red as result of the suns rays getting blocked.
By the way included in the definition of earthquake is that an earthquake is a commotion, that is, (of the air) a gale, or a whirlwind. Sounds like the description of the whirlwind that comes out of volcanoes to me.
Also the word "great" translated from the Hebrew can mean a large number. So in verse 12 great earthquake can mean a large number of earthquakes and volcanoes which is exactly what we will see in the next alignment in the fall. A large number of earthquakes and volcanoes.
Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
The tail/debris of elenin will hit the earth. I will also add that an asteroid or asteroids will hit the earth as we have 3 approaching very close to the earth at this time.
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
This is a description of the magnetic forces of the planets known as the Universal Law of Gravitation during the alignment.
The heaven/sky between the planets when aligned departs/pulls like a scroll when it is rolled together. As this happens we see the results; every mountain and island is moved out their places.
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Kirt end
Tim says
The Bible lists several prerequisite prophetic milestone events (A and B) that must happen before Wormwood can come (C). If event B has not happened, then event C cannot happen, and likewise with B depending on A first coming. The problem is that event A has not happened yet; God has not warned and gathered his people to safety ahead of this global cataclysm (Rev 6:12-14 = Joel 2:30-32). Consequently, Comet Elenin cannot possibly fulfill the Wormwood death star prophecies in 2011; there is simply not enough time to fit everything in that must happen first.
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Kirt says
Tim the verses you quote to make your point about several prerequisites before Wormwood are just two.
Rev 6:12-14 which is the 6th seal and will take place before Wormwood.
And
Joe 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of Yahweh come.
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of Yahweh shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as Yahweh hath said, and in the remnant whom Yahweh shall call.
According to these verses, Joe 2:30 and 31 fit the description of the 6th seal which again matches perfectly with the alignment that we will see with Elenin/brown dwarf star in the fall.
Notice that the 6th seal takes place before the great and terrible day of Yahweh and the deliverance is in reference to be delivered through the great and terrible day of Yahweh.
Verse 32 says it shall come to pass, Which means after the wonders in 30 & 31.
So, it says deliverance to Zion and Jerusalem will take place after the event of verses 30 & 31.
Again Wormwood is a trump and not the 6th seal so the gathering MAY not take place till after the sixth seal.
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Tim says
If Comet Elenin cannot fulfill end time Bible prophecies in 2011, then we have to consider it just a normal comet. Based on the track record of the many comets in history which have passed at distance without disaster, it's reasonable to expect Comet Elenin will follow suite and unreasonable to claim we should do anything special in response to it. Bring on 2012...
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Kirt says
How many comets have a track record of causing earthquakes as I have shown in the table I made above???
None, that’s because Elenin is not just a comet.
Tim wrote
2012 – Mayan Calendar
I already wrote in a previous article about the Mayan Calendar 2012. But Recently it got worse for 2012 as it came up in the news that 2012 may be based on an erroneous assumption causing it to be off by 50 or 100 years. However, other experts like Dr. Allen Christenson say there is no error. The date is confirmed through major historical and astronomical events. Nevertheless, he is not a believer in any of the doomsday speculation surrounding 2012, even if it is the right date.
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Kirt says
I have not tied any of what I am saying into the Mayan Calander.
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Tim says
2016/2017 – Daniel's Timeline by Dewey Bruton / The Jonah Code by Michael Rood
Although their names may be unfamiliar to Christians, many Messianic Jewish believers have seen Dewey Bruton's Daniel's Timeline DVD and Michael Rood's the Jonah Code DVDs. Both teachers posit that the 70 Weeks of Daniel can be used as a 70 year countdown to the Millennium. They use the declaration of the nation of Israel 1947 as the starting point.
I covered this already here. Since I wrote that article, we have now passed well into the time when a 2010-2017 as the final 7 years should have begun to show evidence with prophetic fulfillments. Michael Rood's “confirmation of the covenant” (Damascus nuked by Israel) for this seven year period should have already happened this past fall. Given nothing happened, his “3rd layer of Daniel's 70 Weeks” must be thrown in the trash bin.
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Kirt says
I have said nothing abut these timelines and won’t comment about them at this time.
Kirt end
Tim says
Conclusion
Like I remind people all the time, the Bible is difficult book with many confusing passages. It's therefore no surprise that people would miss its prohibition about date setting as they try their best to see what all those numbers in Daniel and Revelation might be able to tell us about the timing of the end times events. Yet when you look at it, it's much harder to ignore and deny the outrageously bad track record of date setters, even those using Bible prophecy. Of course, when you examine what Jesus said closely, he told us what prophecy was meant to do. To show us what was to happen (Rev 1:1-3) and to then watch for specific listed events (Mt 24:33) as signs to know when you the end is close or not close at all (Luke 21:9).
So you see there really is no need for date setting. Jesus gave us all that we need. Now we just need to trust the plan that God revealed for his servants in the end times. Wait and be so doing when he finds you, and you won't have anything to worry about.
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Kirt says
I am not date setting just posting what I see as our King said
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
I have not said to worry about what is coming. I am only trying to let people know what is coming.
Kirt end